While most run from the pain of a shattered dream, Pete Wilson turns into the uncertainty of Plan B, to be transformed by God instead.
Most people gravitate towards anything and everything to make sure Plan A gets executed in their lives.
By the time I finished the first chapter, I knew Plan B was going to be different. This was a book about discovering faith when we least expect it.
Today’s Special Blend Interview guest is Pete Wilson.
Pete Wilson is a Christian blogger at WithoutWax and Senior Pastor at Crosspoint Church. Pete has been married to his wife Brandi for 12 years and they have three boys – Jett (8), Gage (6), and Brewer (3).
I sat down with Pete in today’s digital interview, to get a closer view into his thoughts on the reality of broken dreams, failed plans and the transforming power of Jesus Christ.
I hope you enjoy this special glimpse with Pete Wilson into the newly published book Plan B!
** Book Giveaway **
Today is also your chance to win a copy of Pete Wilson’s book, Plan B!
Enter the Plan B Book Giveaway at the end of today’s interview!
Thanks for taking the time to sit down with me virtually for this interview. I’ve been a reader of your blog, Without Wax, since last September 2009. I just happened to land on your blog the day you submitted your 60,000 word manuscript for Plan B.
It got me curious. One thing I noticed right away– checking out your blog– was your writing style. Down to earth and direct.
“While I desire to lead, love, and parent with humility and approachability my desire to be “right” can make me come across as arrogant and self righteous.” ~ Pete Wilson on WithoutWax
1. What person or experience influenced this level of personal transparency in how you relate publicly?
For a pastor, that level of vulnerability in posts like Need To Be Right seeems pretty bold.
I think John Ortberg has been a great influence on me when it comes to being open and honest about my faults.
I’ve been listening to his messages and reading his books since college and I’ve always loved the authenticity that he leads with.
Someone once said, “You can only be loved to the extent that you are known.”
So with that in mind I try to live my life as honestly as I know how.
What a great quote. John Ortberg’s The Life You’ve Always Wanted is a fave. Not only that, John’s pastoring at Menlo Park Presbyterian, which is right in my back yard here in California.
2. How did you come to choose the topic of broken dreams for your first book, Plan B?
Plan B was originally a sermon series in our church.
The response was huge. There were so many people dealing with Plan B’s in their life and they wanted to go deeper with the subject.
I honestly felt like I had a personal responsibility to study this topic further.
So I did. It became a small passion of mine and the book was the result.
It’s awesome you stepped up to put out an honest and encouraging book like Plan B.
3. Did you experience more than one Plan B moment in your life?
My life has been full of them.
Probably the first significant one was my parents getting a divorce when I was 16.
Allowing that experience to pull me closer to God really set a framework for which I have viewed other crises in my life.
Not long after I was married, my wife also experienced a miscarriage.
“This was a moment that really tested my faith in a way I had never been tested. Once again the crisis eventually led to a new understanding of God in my life.”
I believe in life that we face many different Plan B’s. Some are obviously bigger than others, but our response is what matters most.
We have an opportunity to choose intimacy with God over our circumstances in every situation and that’s what I wanted to share with people that I learned.
It’s powerful to see the lessons you’ve lived integrated into the messages you preach.
4. One of my favorite chapters was “Whiplash”. How has going through Plan Bs yourself and with others affected how you make decisions about new ventures? Do you find yourself more cautious or free?
I think I’m more free.
I’ve learned that God is going to allow me over and over again to step out into the unknown.
I’m not always going to get what I want, but who I’m becoming is in fact more important than where I’m going.
I often find myself in situations where if I look at the circumstances, it appears as if God is not there.
However, I’m learning that God is most powerfully present, even when he seems most apparently absent.
You’re describing a freedom that we can’t possibly capture by our own making, but we all long to see it come alive in our everyday lives.
5. What has encouraged you to embrace the discomfort of unresolved problems or circumstances in your life?
If God can bring Joseph through being thrown in a well, beat up by his brothers, a false rape accusation, and a prison sentence, then I am pretty sure he can take care of my “problems” as well.
I’m not saying that should make it easier, but being reminding of God’s faithfulness in the past points me to God being faithful in my current circumstances.
There is a direct correlation between crisis and transformation and I’ve gotten to the point where I truly want to become the person God intended when He thought me into existence.
Joseph is the best — talk about a bad case of Plan B whiplash!
6. How do you think a church community or friendships among believers would change, if we grew more accepting of the ideas that Plan Bs happen and faith takes time?
Community inside so many of our churches is surface level at best.
People are afraid to admit that life hasn’t turned out the way they had planned. People are afraid to admit they feel God has disappointed them. People feel the pressure to paint a picture that everything is going great.
Yet the reality is that authentic community is most often built inside of shattered dreams.
When we allow people to see our hurts and disappointments community is almost instantaneous.
I hope we can all be inspired to be a part in daring that kind of community to happen through us. It’s a piece of heaven on earth.
7. Between pastoring, working with a large ministry staff, starting new ministries, blogging, writing – being husband and daddy – how do you unwind and recharge? Do you even sleep?
Believe it or not, I do sleep.
I have an amazing family and they are what replenish me.
I am so blessed to go home every night to 3 crazy boys and my beautiful wife. It’s just a balance.
I’m so honored to be in ministry, but I quickly learned that you have to keep a healthy balance and find something that replenishes you physically, mentally and spiritually.
Watching movies can be an incredible escape for me.
I also enjoy just about anything outside.
“I love camping, hiking and fly fishing. In fact, that’s my life long dream. I want to pastor a small church in Wyoming and run a fly shop on the side.”
Sounds like the movie A River Runs Through It, except yours would mix in God, your family and ministry.
8. If you had carte blanche and could vacation anywhere, where would you go and what would you do?
Fiji. But I really don’t know why.
I love the idea of a beautiful beach, a good book, and complete seclusion.
Hey, aren’t you a fan of the TV series Lost?
9. Before we wrap up our time together, I want to thank you for your challenging blog post, Engage or Withdraw.
You shared in the post that you felt nudged to engage in a relationship, sit down and tell them the “doubts creeping into (your) mind and heart.”
How did it go?
It went really well I believe.
I’ve had to do this over and over again with family, friends and staff members.
I’m always thankful I took the time to engage, even if it didn’t turn out the way I had hoped.
10. It’s easier for me to withdraw than engage. What would be your word of encouragement for a reticent, recovering people-pleaser like me?
You are so asking the wrong person.
I’m a life long people pleaser. It’s a constant problem for me.
On a really honest day, I would admit to you that this is really just a form of narcissism in my life.
Quite simply, my advice to myself and to you is get over it.
Get over yourself. You’re not going to please everyone all the time. It’s impossible.
You definitely barista a hot shot of faith!
Thank you Pete for spending a few moments here at Faith Barista!
Someone once said, “You can tell a lot about a man by the company he aspires to keep: the famous and the successful — or the broken and the hurting? If it’s the latter, it’s a good sign that that person values Jesus as the only priority in their lives.”
You mentioned in the book that you love being around broken people because of how they bless you.
May God continue to bless you, as you continue to discover God’s best work through the Plan Bs, in you and in others.
If you liked what you caught in today’s interview, there’s more where that came from — Go now and order a copy of Plan B!
You’ll love it so much, you will want a second copy to give to a friend!
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