I first met Kathi Lipp four years ago for a cup of coffee, when I was first began thinking about writing a book proposal for my new book Finding Spiritual Whitespace. Kathi is a popular speaker and author of The Cure For the Perfect Life: 12 Ways to Start Trying Harder and Live Braver (co-authored with Cheri Gregory). Kathi lives here in Silicon Valley too, so when I asked a friend to introduce us, we met at a cafe and became kindreds.

Today, Kathi invited me to be a guest on her podcast show So Here’s The Thing with Kathi Lipp for a cup of virtual coffee and some soul-to-soul talk about finding spiritual whitespace during Christmas. We had an amazing conversation about the realities of the holidays and how we can create space for God when we’re feeling overwhelmed.
I hope you enjoy the podcast! I’m sharing my heart about some tender topics — so you’re getting me “as is”.
As you enjoy the podcast, share this podcast with a friend! Let’s encourage each other to really enjoy Christmas with some practical tips and stories — to be present and embrace the real you.
Thanks for your support as I make this journey to share encouragement with an open heart. I carry the stories and words you share here, wherever I go. You make my heart braver each time, reminding me I’m not alone on this journey of faith.
Enjoy the Podcast
Here’s Kathi…
Have you ever had one of those… days? What do you do when life feels out of control, when you can’t find peace, when your soul is restless… and it’s the holidays?
We talked to Bonnie Gray, author of Finding Spiritual Whitespace: Awakening Your Soul to Rest about:
- How to embrace the part of you that is real and let go of the business and fluff that tend to overwhelm at this time of the year.
- Creating space in your heart for God in a busy season.
- Practical tips on how you can find spiritual whitespace for your entire family this Christmas.
- How to enjoy the small things this holiday season for a truly joyful, hopeful season.
Head over to Kathi’s Place To Listen & Invite a Friend
Click here to listen to the podcast for you and invite a friend to enjoy a cup of soul mocha — brewed just for you.
I hope this podcast inspires you to take some steps to choose what God chooses: you and your heart.
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